google learned the hard way, but google's been very successful. susan molinari is doing a great job there. they've learned the hard way that if you don't have that washington presence and the tendency of a lot of these tech firms is we don't want the government, we don't need the government, let us just innovate on our own. that's great in theory, but all of a sudden the rules change, and you're out the window. >> host: what do you miss about congress? >> guest: very little. i miss the foreign trips, and i miss the members. but the dysfunctionalty right now, i'm a lot happier on the outside. i left voluntarily, undefeated and unindicted which is the way you want to leave the place. i was turned out as committee chairman. i'd been in leadership for two cycles and three cycles as committee chairman, a ranking member and a subcommittee chairman -- >> host: and you ran the national republican -- >> guest: yeah. i ran the congressional campaign successfully two times. that's a pretty good run. and so it's just time for me to do something else. i didn't